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does canada use usmle?
ask_question - 08-14-09 11:13
does canada use usmle? if not which one do they use?
ask_question - 08-14-09 11:13
does canada use usmle? if not which one do they use?
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Re: does canada use usmle?
adonis123 - 08-15-09 11:01 
posted by ask_question on 08-14-09 11:13
does canada use usmle? if not which one do they use?
does canada use usmle? if not which one do they use?

Canada has its own liscensing exams viz.,MCCEE,MCCQE1,MCCQE2.After u pass allthese exams u get LMCC(Licentiate of Medical Council of Canada) certificate.U can apply for canadian residency programs merely after passing first exam i.e., MCCEE.
Visit the website : www.mcc.ca for further information.
Good Luck.
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Re: does canada use usmle?
haward - 10-02-09 17:23 Hi Guys ,
Is the Canadian Residency spot easier to get than a US Residency spot?
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adonis123 - 10-03-09 01:10 
posted by haward on 10-02-09 17:23
Hi Guys ,
Is the Canadian Residency spot easier to get than a US Residency spot?
Hi Guys ,
Is the Canadian Residency spot easier to get than a US Residency spot?

It is more difficult than that of the US.Every year , only 20% of the IMG's get matched in Canada compared to 44% in the US.
Good Luck!
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Re: does canada use usmle?
adonis123 - 10-03-09 05:21 
posted by ask_question on 08-14-09 11:13
does canada use usmle? if not which one do they use?
does canada use usmle? if not which one do they use?

For applying to canadian exams , visit the website: www.mcc.ca
For getting your credentials verified before applying to canadian exams , visit the website: www.pcrc.org
For information on licensing in different provinces of Canada , visit the website: www.fmrac.ca
For information on working in Canada after a US Residency training,visit the website: www.hc-sc.gc.ca
Good Luck!
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mtniharika - 10-04-09 04:42 thanks for all the information adonis123.
Once u have completed the residency in Canada, Is it valid in USA or viceversa?
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Re: does canada use usmle?
adonis123 - 10-04-09 07:21 
posted by mtniharika on 10-04-09 04:42
thanks for all the information adonis123.
Once u have completed the residency in Canada, Is it valid in USA or viceversa?
thanks for all the information adonis123.
Once u have completed the residency in Canada, Is it valid in USA or viceversa?

1) Regarding the recognition of a US residency in Canada and then practicing in Canada:
"Statements of Need for Postgraduate Training in the United States - Medical graduates not currently enrolled in Canadian postgraduate training and not licensed specialists in Canada:
Who is eligible?
Candidates in this category are medical graduates not currently enrolled in Canadian postgraduate medical training and not already fully licensed to practice medicine in a specialty in a Canadian province or territory. This category includes graduates of medical schools not accredited by the Committee on Accreditation of Canadian Medical Schools (CACMS) or the Liaison Committee on Medical Education (LCME).
To be eligible the candidate must be:
A Canadian Citizen or Permanent Resident in Canada
and
A medical graduate not currently enrolled in Canadian postgraduate medical training and not already fully licensed to practice medicine in Canada
Applicants in this category will be pursuing medical specialty training that will enable them to obtain:
specialty certification by the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Canada (RCPSC), and
a licence to practice medicine in a specialty in a province or territory in Canada.
Which training programs are eligible?
Accreditation and RCPSC Recognition
Eligible residency programs are accredited by the Accreditation Council on Graduate Medical Education (ACGME). The training must be in a specialty or sub-specialty recognized by the Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Canada (RCPSC). Eligible training programs in a fellowship or sub-specialty are accredited by the ACGME. Advanced training programs in a sub-specialty discipline (professional development) are either ACGME accredited or otherwise recognized by the American Board of Medical Specialties (ABMS) as educational development in the specialty ("ECFMG Non-Standard Training").
Preliminary Year and Transitional Year
If the medical graduate obtains a one-year position in a Preliminary Year or Transitional Year, Health Canada will issue a Statement of Need for one year. The medical graduate is expected to obtain a categorical residency position commencing the following year. If the medical graduate obtains both a Preliminary Year and a residency program, the Statement of Need will be issued for both the one year program and the residency program.
Length of training programs
Some residency training programs in the United States are shorter in length by one or two years than the Canadian residency training program, and therefore they do not fully meet the Objectives of Training and Specialty Training Requirements of the RCPSC. It is important that applicants be aware of this difference and plan their training accordingly and address this issue in their Action Plan (see below).
Conditions
Physicians' practice in a province or territory will be subject to obtaining certification from the RCPSC and specialty licensure from the provincial or territorial licensing body according to the requirements in place at the time of application for a medical licence. Physicians returning to Canada after residency training will be subject to any physician resource management policies in existence at the time of their return to Canada. Applicants who are confirmed as residents of Ontario and who will seek physician registration with the College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario may consider using one of several registration policies. The permanent residence is the province where the applicant is living at the time of their initial Statement of Need application or was living before leaving Canada to attend medical school.
Which specialties are needed in Canada?
List of Needed Specialties
The List of Needed Specialties is determined by provincial and territorial ministries or departments of health based on needs in their respective jurisdictions. List of contacts within Provincial and Territorial Ministries / Departments of Health. The List is revised annually and is available to applicants in this category upon request. If you wish to obtain more information about the List of Needed Specialties, contact the Program Administrator using the following email address: j1visa@hc-sc.gc.ca or by calling 613-952-1912.
Endorsement
All applicants in this category must complete a Request for Endorsement form and submit it to the Program Administrator (Health Canada) to request formal written endorsement of the specialty training that they wish to pursue in the U.S. from a province or provinces (see item #4 in What documents do I need to submit? below). The specialty for which endorsement is being requested MUST appear on the current year's List of Needed Specialties.
Residents of Quebec who intend to practice in Quebec must contact the Quebec ministry of health representative before submitting their application under this category to Heatlh Canada
How do I plan my training to ensure that I can get a full medical license in Canada?
As part of the requirements for obtaining a Statement of Need, medical graduates who wish to pursue medical specialty residency training in the United States must submit to Health Canada an Action Plan (see item #5 in What documents do I need to submit? below) that will outline how they intend to:
ensure they obtain RCPSC or CFPC certification and full / independent licensure so you can practice medicine in Canada. RCPSC or CFPC certification is a standard requirement for licensure in Canada.
ensure they obtain the Licentiate of the Medical Council of Canada (LMCC), issued upon completion of all MCC examinations. The LMCC is a standard requirement for licensure in Canada.
The Action Plan should clearly lay out a time table for all medical examinations that are required for licensure in the province or territory to which they will be returning for medical practice. For additional information about the above certification and licensure requirements, applicants should contact the RCPSC and the licensing authorities.
When do I submit my application?
Residencies: Applications for Statements of Need for residency programs that commence in July will be processed after the results of the National Resident Matching Program (NRMP) in March and the San Francisco Matching Program (SFMatch) in January.
Extensions: Applications for extensions of Statements of Need for sub-specialty programs should be submitted no less than two months before expiry of the Statement of Need for sub-specialty. See the I already have a Statement of Need section below for more information.
Fellowships: Applications for a Statement of Need in support of fellowship or sub-specialty programs that commence in July/August will be processed starting in January of each year.
How long will my application take to process?
Please allow 30 working days to process an application and issue the Statement of Need. Every effort is made to process applications as quickly as possible, especially from March through May 1 of each year. The Statement of Need, bearing the seal of the Canadian Federal Department of Health, is delivered directly to the Educational Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates (ECFMG). A copy of the signed Statement of Need is mailed by Canada Post to the applicant.
What documents do I need to submit?
Below is the list of documents that applicants in this category (medical graduates not currently enrolled in Canadian postgraduate medical training and not already fully licensed to practice medicine in Canada) must submit in order to apply for a Statement of Need:
1. Application Form
Provide a signed application form. Application forms for programs commencing in July will be in January of that year. Forms of previous years are obsolete and should not be used.
Application Form for a Statement of Need (Category B: Unlicensed Medical Graduate)
Print the pdf form and fill it in, then submit it by mail, email, courier or fax to the Program Administrator (Health Canada).
Note: Please ensure that the training program name included on your application form matches the wording found on your documents from the U.S. institution. Remember that this wording will appear on your Statement of Need. Incorrect wording will result in having to re-issue your Statement of Need and WILL delay the issue of your DS2019 (Eligibility for a J-1 Visa).
2. Proof of Canadian Citizenship/Permanent Residency
Provide proof 1 of Canadian citizenship or permanent residency by submitting a certified copy* of one of the following documents:
Canadian citizenship card
Canadian Passport
Record of birth
Permanent Resident Card
3. Medical Council of Canada Examination Documentation
A) Final year medical students and graduates of international medical schools must provide one of the following documents.
i.A certified copy* of a document from the Medical Council of Canada confirming a passing mark in the Evaluating Examination.
or
ii.A certified copy* of a document from the Medical Council of Canada confirming a passing mark in the Qualifying Examination Part I.
or
iii.A certified copy* of a document from the Medical Council of Canada confirming registration as a Licentiate of the Medical Council of Canada.
B) Final year medical students and graduates of LCME-accredited medical schools must provide one of the following documents.
notarized copy of the MD diploma, or
an original letter from the medical school registrar confirming upcoming graduation.
The minimum examination requirement to obtain a Statement of Need for graduates of medical schools which are not accredited by the Committee on Accreditation on Canadian Medical Schools (CACMS) or the Liaison Committee on Medical Education (LCME) is the Medical Council of Canada Evaluating Examination (MCC EE) 2. There are no exceptions.
A passing score in the Qualifying Examination Part I is recommended because the examination "...assesses the competence of candidates who have obtained the medical degree, for entry into supervised clinical practice in postgraduate training programs, with respect to their knowledge, clinical skills and attitudes as outlined by the MCC objectives." [Medical Council of Canada: Qualifying Exam Part I.]
4. Request for Endorsement form
Complete a Request for Endorsement form for written endorsement of the specialty training that you wish to pursue in the U.S. from a province or provinces.
Print the pdf form and fill it in, then submit it by mail, email, courier or fax to the Program Administrator (Health Canada).
Note: The medical specialty must appear in the current List of Needed Medical Specialties. 3 The list is generated annually in January and is provided to applicants upon request. For more information about the List of Needed Medical Specialties, please contact the Program Administrator using the following email address: j1visa@hc-sc.gc.ca or by calling 613-952-1912.
5. Action Plan
Provide a practicable Action Plan3 that outlines how you intend to:
ensure you obtain RCPSC or CFPC certification and full / independent licensure so you can practice medicine in Canada. RCPSC or CFPC certification is a standard requirement for licensure in Canada.
ensure you obtain the Licentiate of the Medical Council of Canada (LMCC), issued upon completion of all MCC examinations. The LMCC is a standard requirement for licensure in Canada.
Additional information and direction on preparing an Action Plan.
Essential Resources on Medical Licensure and Specialty Certification in Canada
Information and links to Provincial and Territorial Government Websites
6. RCPSC Letter of Recognition of U.S. Training (for medical specialty training programs of two years or more)
For medical specialty training programs of two years or more in duration, applicants need to provide a letter from the RCPSC indicating that the clinical training program in the United States would be recognized in full or in part to the extent that the content of training satisfies the College's training requirements.
Requests to the RCPSC must include a copy of the residency training contract with the U.S. program and may be submitted by fax or email:
Fax
613-730-3707
credentials@rcpsc.edu
(include "J-1 Visa Letter" in the subject line)
Mail (address for information only - please submit request by fax or email)
Credentials Unit
Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Canada
774 Echo Drive
Ottawa, Ontario
K1S 5N8
Note: The RCPSC letter of recognition of US training is always delivered by email to both you and the Program Administrator at Health Canada in approximately five working days.
7. Letter of Offer/Training Contract/ U.S. Match Webpage
Provide a copy of one of the following:
A letter of an offer for a residency training program from the clinical training program in the United States. The letter must be on the institution's letterhead and should be accompanied by your signature of acceptance of the offer.
or
A training contract for a residency training program from the clinical training program in the United States. The training contract should bear your signature indicating you have accepted the offer.
or
The secure web page confirming you have matched to a clinical residency training program in the United States.
8. Curriculum Vitae
Provide your curriculum vitae in electronic format. Send by electronic mail to j1visa@hc-sc.gc.ca with "Your Name, CV" in the subject line.
9. Evidence of provincial residence
Provide a photocopy (both sides) of both your provincial Driver's License and one other government-issued document that bears your current address as evidence of current residence in your province.
Proof of residency in Ontario is demonstrated by providing a copy of the following:
(1) An Ontario Driver's Licence issued at least three months before the date of application; and
(2) One document displaying your name and principal and permanent Ontario address from List 2 (Proof of Residency) of the Ontario Health Coverage Document List with personal financial information blocked out.
10. HealthForceOntario Marketing and Recuitment Agency (HFO MRA)
Ontario residents who are returning to Ontario to practice medicine must complete the registration form of the HFO MRA and submit the form to HFO MRA before a Statement of Need will be issued. These applicants can still sign the consent form.
HFO MRA Registration Form
11. Optional: Consent to Disclosure of Personal Information form
Provide a signed original of the Consent to the Disclosure of Personal Information to Provincial and Territorial Governments for Recruitment Purposes (the Consent Form). By signing the Consent Form, the individual permits Canadian provincial and territorial health authorities to initiate the process of recruitment of an individual for employment in Canada after completion of their medical training in the United States.
The individual can sign the Consent Form at the time of application for a Statement of Need or at any time during their training in the United States. Physicians will be subject to any physician resource management policies in existence at the time of their return to Canada.
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Re: does canada use usmle?
adonis123 - 10-05-09 09:56 2)Regarding the recognition of an accredited Canadian Residency Training by the US Specialty Boards:
Generally, the Physicians who have completed the training programs accredited by the RCPSC(Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Canada) and RCFPC(Royal College of Family Physicians of Canada) are recognised by the various American Specialty Boards as eligible for their Certification Exams.For further details and application purposes one has to visit the websites of the respective Specialty Boards viz. ABIM,American Board of Dermatology,etc.
Good Luck!
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