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Massive Rectal Bleeding
mohhaider - 10-15-08 12:52
A sixty year old man ,who was previously healthy , presents with massive rectal bleeding. Which of the following is the most likely diagnosis ?
a- diverticulosis of the colon .
b- ulcerative colitis .
c- external hemorrhoid .
d- ischemic colitis .
e- CA of the colon .
mohhaider - 10-15-08 12:52
A sixty year old man ,who was previously healthy , presents with massive rectal bleeding. Which of the following is the most likely diagnosis ?
a- diverticulosis of the colon .
b- ulcerative colitis .
c- external hemorrhoid .
d- ischemic colitis .
e- CA of the colon .
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sackatdoc - 10-15-08 13:12 my answer is external hemorroids, coz all other conditions are associted with some symptomatology
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mohhaider - 10-16-08 12:52 The answer is diverticulosis as it's the most common cause of massive gastrointestinal bleeding in elderly .Ulcerative colitis occur in yonger age group ,CA colon presents with chronic bleeding and anemia ,and ishemic colitis will have other symptoms before the bleeding .
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Youngdoctor - 10-16-08 17:56 
posted by sackatdoc on 10-15-08 13:12
my answer is external hemorroids, coz all other conditions are associted with some symptomatology
my answer is external hemorroids, coz all other conditions are associted with some symptomatology

How come, Hemorroids. It is unlikely to have massive bleeding from rectum
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mohhaider - 10-17-08 00:05 Yes ,Youngdoctor .It's unlikely to have a massive bleeding per rectum from hemorroids .Thank you for explaining this point .
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sackatdoc - 10-18-08 03:18 yeah,i am wrong at that one, i got misled into thinking of a condition with no symptomatology, cos diverticulosis can be with other symptoms, like diarrhea or pain.
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niusha - 10-20-08 09:42 It's the first time I hear about that diverticolosis has massive bleeding..are you sure about that Haider?
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mohhaider - 10-20-08 09:45 Of course I'm sure about that question I wrote here .Actually I read it in one of the STEP 2 CK book and made little modifications .In addition to that all choices are explained .
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sackatdoc - 10-21-08 02:37 one of the presentation of diverticulitis is massive bleeding in elderly,niusha, dont forget that fact, its high yeild.
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mohhaider - 10-21-08 02:58 
posted by sackatdoc on 10-21-08 02:37
one of the presentation of diverticulitis is massive bleeding in elderly,niusha, dont forget that fact, its high yeild.
one of the presentation of diverticulitis is massive bleeding in elderly,niusha, dont forget that fact, its high yeild.

Okay .
Here is the expert guy confirms that ,although I was sure about the choice before ,but now it will be cleare for everyone .
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sackatdoc - 10-21-08 03:15 but i typed diverticulitis,instead of diverticulosis, which is slightly different entity,any more info on this
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mohhaider - 10-21-08 09:14 Diverticulitis is the inflammation of diverticulosis ,and it was not included in the choices .Patients often present with the classic triad of left lower quadrant pain, fever, and leukocytosis
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sackatdoc - 10-21-08 14:50 we discussed this already in detail, what in particular i wanted to know was you mentioned, it is just an inflammation of diverticula,in a condition present called diverticulosis
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mohhaider - 10-21-08 16:07 Okay ,nice informations we learnt here about both of these conditions .Seems that you enjoyed this post as you always do .Thank you all.
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niusha - 10-23-08 00:42 ok,,it was a new point for me:
DIVERTICOLOSIS has MASSIVE BLEEDING.
nice!
by the way I love diverticulitis just like Sdoc who likes wound dehiscence!!!
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mohhaider - 10-23-08 00:53 Okay ,I will remember that you are diverticulitis friend ,I have a friend that was liking hyperthyroidism and if the question was about that matter ,he will answer it in full details.
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sackatdoc - 10-23-08 11:20 our brains are really funny, we just fall in love without reasons sometimes, do know it happens with me, just suddenly i feel so attracted to something or somebody,and when i try to find reasons i cant, just cant.
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mohhaider - 10-23-08 16:32 So you do love someone now, Mr.Sackatdoc ? I hope that it is not the wound dehesence our collegue Niusha mentioned before ?Be careful .
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sackatdoc - 10-25-08 08:44 what are you hinting here Mr Mohhaider,indeed you are the real cop of DOCTOK, and all this while what you were doing was projecting, i am sure now!!!
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mohhaider - 10-25-08 09:42 
posted by sackatdoc on 10-23-08 11:20
our brains are really funny, we just fall in love without reasons sometimes, do know it happens with me, just suddenly i feel so attracted to something or somebody,and when i try to find reasons i cant, just cant.
our brains are really funny, we just fall in love without reasons sometimes, do know it happens with me, just suddenly i feel so attracted to something or somebody,and when i try to find reasons i cant, just cant.

Absolutely no Mr. Sackatdoc,I just made some analysis of what you wrote before and some linking to draw a relationship .Projection is not my self-defence machanism as I'm very sure that I have one job right now,CK .No palce for other secondory matters .
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sackatdoc - 10-25-08 10:34 these linking and analysis that you did is what is the job of a cop, this is your side career and i know what you are concentrating right now, CK, but being cop is in your blood i guess.loll
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mohhaider - 10-25-08 11:47 May be you are right as I like analysis ,but I think I was right .
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bobby - 10-25-08 14:35 Sorry ,I found the preceeding posts by sackatdoc and Mohhaider really funny,so just dropping a line here.Haider,are you by any means a "scorpio"--the analysis thing fits in.No offence meant.
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InSitu - 10-25-08 14:39 
posted by sackatdoc on 10-21-08 02:37
one of the presentation of diverticulitis is massive bleeding in elderly,niusha, dont forget that fact, its high yeild.
one of the presentation of diverticulitis is massive bleeding in elderly,niusha, dont forget that fact, its high yeild.

For bleeding... yes for diverticulitis but no for diverticulosis.
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mohhaider - 10-25-08 14:52 
posted by bobby on 10-25-08 14:35
Sorry ,I found the preceeding posts by sackatdoc and Mohhaider really funny,so just dropping a line here.Haider,are you by any means a "scorpio"--the analysis thing fits in.No offence meant.
Sorry ,I found the preceeding posts by sackatdoc and Mohhaider really funny,so just dropping a line here.Haider,are you by any means a "scorpio"--the analysis thing fits in.No offence meant.

It's okay Bobby .
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sackatdoc - 10-25-08 17:41 bobby can you guess other peoples zodiacs as well, so what do you think is mine, are you into all this do you believe in zodiacs, is there any thing true.
thanks insitu for that clarification, so no bleed in -losis you mean.
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bobby - 10-25-08 17:53 Well,I am not really "into" zodiacs,but yeah in some cases certain people do fit the bill.As for your zodiac...I am really not sure,but just let me guess is it Aries? Just a guess!!
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sackatdoc - 10-25-08 17:56 now you got yourself in trouble, coz since you made a guess , you certainly have a reason for it, so i will first ask what makes you think so and then i'll tell what i am
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mohhaider - 10-26-08 01:07 Hi guys ,
Let's leave those expectations and guesses and go back to concentrate on USMLE as this took many posts over than I thought .
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bingousmle - 10-26-08 03:20 i think its ok haider,...since a little jest here and there is cherished even by the wisest of men.:)
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mohhaider - 10-26-08 03:58 Exactly ,little jest .You know Bingousmle many posts here went out of title and indeed I respect the moderators of the doctok and feel shy if they themselves told us that .Do you understand me ?
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sackatdoc - 10-26-08 07:41 dont know if others understand you or not but i certainly dont, when we come here on the doctok, we expect to let ourselves down, get help, discuss problems which may not be always academic coz atleast i am a human, and my mind is engrossed with many things other than study, so my point is had this been some official site like ECFMG or ERAS, i would have uderstood that by chatting we are defeating the purpose of exam or match but this place is meant to help us in a way that we want not what our bosses(i suppose we have none)want, or we are bound or tied up by some rules which atleast i havent seen pasted by INSITU ANY WHERE!!!so Haider my advice, your being a cop as a joke though started by you before, has no longer remained one but has become a serious issue and frankly i dont have friends who are busy being cops with their own friends,if they try they loose me
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InSitu - 10-27-08 02:24 I see you guys having so much fun here. In every USMLE forum you find such disagreements and we understand that USMLE stress does cause this and then imagine when the journey to residency complicates. I think you guys are more friends than doctok cops and you know better than anyone that you are learning so much from what you discuss. Please do not post anymore anything irrelevant to this topic on this thread. Create different threads if you want and have a friendly discussions, we have no problem with that.
Hey Dr. Bingo....we are thankful to have you here but can you please give your topics a name and not use irregular characters (like %@&&%#). If you use relevant titles you help other people find these useful posts you are sharing with us all.:)
Thank you guys.
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mohhaider - 10-27-08 16:25 
posted by InSitu on 10-27-08 02:24
I see you guys having so much fun here. In every USMLE forum you find such disagreements and we understand that USMLE stress does cause this and then imagine when the journey to residency complicates. I think you guys are more friends than doctok cops and you know better than anyone that you are learning so much from what you discuss. Please do not post anymore anything irrelevant to this topic on this thread. Create different threads if you want and have a friendly discussions, we have no problem with that.
Hey Dr. Bingo....we are thankful to have you here but can you please give your topics a name and not use irregular characters (like %@&&%#). If you use relevant titles you help other people find these useful posts you are sharing with us all.:)
Thank you guys.
I see you guys having so much fun here. In every USMLE forum you find such disagreements and we understand that USMLE stress does cause this and then imagine when the journey to residency complicates. I think you guys are more friends than doctok cops and you know better than anyone that you are learning so much from what you discuss. Please do not post anymore anything irrelevant to this topic on this thread. Create different threads if you want and have a friendly discussions, we have no problem with that.
Hey Dr. Bingo....we are thankful to have you here but can you please give your topics a name and not use irregular characters (like %@&&%#). If you use relevant titles you help other people find these useful posts you are sharing with us all.:)
Thank you guys.

Thank you so much Dr.InSitu ,for the great help at difficult times .You are realy a great example for big a heart .God Bless you .
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babbu5508 - 06-23-10 04:48 a- diverticulosis of the colon..by the age and by the presenting symptoms,of just a massive rectal bleed this seems more likely
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bingousmle - 06-30-10 17:55 if there were a choice the most appealing answer to this question would be angiodysplasia.. hemmorrhoids will not produce massive rectal bleed
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babbu5508 - 07-10-10 03:29 a- diverticulosis of the colon...common cause of massive rectal bleed in an elderly person with minim al associated symptoms like left iliac fossa pain
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